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Some SEC Football notes...

Postby BMF » Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:58 pm

Southeastern Conference NFL Draft Early Entries:

Tyler Bray, Tennessee, QB
Knile Davis, Arkansas, RB
Matt Elam, Florida, S
Chris Faulk, LSU, OT
Sharrif Floyd, Florida, DT
D.J. Fluker, Alabama, OT
Michael Ford, LSU, RB
Kwame Geathers, Georgia, NT
Justin Hunter, Tennessee, WR
Jelani Jenkins, Florida, LB
Jarvis Jones, Georgia, LB
Eddie Lacy, Alabama, RB
Marcus Lattimore, South Carolina, RB
Corey Lemonier, Auburn, DE
Bennie Logan, LSU, DT
Tyrann Mathieu, LSU, CB
Dee Milliner, Alabama, CB
Barkevious Mingo, LSU, DE
Kevin Minter, LSU, LB
Sam Montgomery, LSU, DE
Alex Ogletree, Georgia, LB
Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee, WR
Jordan Reed, Florida, TE
Eric Reid, LSU, S
Darrington Sentimore, Tennessee, DE
Tharold Simon, LSU, CB
Spencer Ware, LSU, RB
Brad Wing, LSU, P

Some really good NFL prospects in this group...

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Ole Miss Recruiting Closing Strong

Rivals has Ole Miss' recruiting class at number 17 in the country right now. That could be improving big time in the next 22 days. The Rebels are close to landing several highly rated defensive standouts as well as the No. 1 WR prospect in the nation. Laquon Treadwell, a wide receiver out of Illinois who is rated the top receiver prospect in the nation is leaning toward Mississippi. Also, DE Robert Nkemdicke, the nations top prospect has narrowed his choices down to Ole Miss and LSU. Doesn't hurt that his brother plays for the Rebs. Top high school prospects Tony Conner (DB) and Elijah Daniel (DE) are also thought to be leaning toward Oxford.

Signing day is just three weeks away and looks like Ole Miss may have their best recruiting class in awhile. Stay tuned......

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LSU Tigers

Key losses: DEs Barkevious Mingo, Sam Montgomery; LB Kevin Minter; DB Eric Reid

The four names above are just a portion of the 10 LSU underclassmen who filed for the NFL draft. I didn't realize this until I read a story from the Times-Picayune's website, but the most underclassmen LSU previously lost in a season was three (2003, 2011).

Miles shrugged off the outflow, telling reporters, "I like the state of the program." He said he wants his players to leave early for the NFL, as it shows high school players that it's possible to enter the NFL as an underclassman, and the cycle continues. But, Les, 10 underclassmen, not to mention those players who are graduating or no longer eligible?

The defense will be a particular challenge for veteran coordinator John Chavis to piece together. In addition to those previously mentioned, tackle Bennie Logan and cornerbackTharold Simon are leaving. Every other corner besides Simon was a freshman last season, although the Tigers were still steady in yards allowed per attempt (5.9, which ranked third in the SEC and 11th in the Football Bowl Subdivision).

Know what would help? LSU is among the finalists for Georgia-based defensive end Robert Nkemdiche, who is currently RecruitingNation's top overall prospect.

Las Vegas still has faith in Miles' ability to reload on the go; depending where you look, the Tigers have about 10-1 to 12-1 odds to win next season's BCS title. Why? Good question, honestly. Jeremy Hill could be a dark horse Heisman contender running behind a sturdierline, but the defense will take a step or two back with or without Nkemdiche.

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Re: Some SEC Football notes...

Postby BMF » Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:02 pm

Alabama Crimson Tide

Key losses: Half of the offensive line; RB Eddie Lacy; CB Dee Milliner

Wait, didn't I just write a week ago that the Tide would be an overwhelming favorite in 2013? That's how well Nick Saban has it going right now. If the turnover from 2011 to 2012 didn't deter Alabama, there's no reason to believe the 2012 departures will hamper success in the immediate future.

That said, the losses are individually pretty profound; they'd cripple a lot of programs, including well-established programs. The Tide, according to some NFL scouts, had the top-rated running back (Lacy), guard (Chance Warmack), center (Barrett Jones) and cornerback (Milliner).

How the team replenishes its offensive line, minus Jones, Warmack and D.J. Fluker, will tell the story of the 2013 season. There are plenty of reasons to believe the Tide will transition well, because they stockpile at most every position, but it doesn't change the fact they are losing a lot of talent. However, because of all of the talent that Alabama will return (T.J. Yeldon for Lacy, for instance) -- in addition to another top-five recruiting class -- it isn't going anywhere. We all know that.

But we saw in 2012 that some holes are harder to fill. Corner, for one, wasn't a particularly strong position in '12 even with Milliner. Perhaps the line will be affected more than we presently recognize.

In 2012, attrition meant a one-loss season. In 2013, might a loss preclude the Tide from the title chase?

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GEORGIA

•DT Johnathan Atkins, Fr., 6-4, 310, Hargrave Military Academy
•OL Aulden Bynum, Fr., 6-5, 265, Valdosta, Ga.
•OL Josh Cardiello, Fr., 6-3, 280, Buford, Ga.
•LB Reggie Carter, Fr., 6-1, 225, Snellville, Ga.
•ATH J.J. Green, Fr., 5-9, 185, Kingsland, Ga.
•S Tray Matthews, Fr., 6-0, 195, Newnan, Ga. (ESPN 150)
•S Quincy Mauger, Fr., 6-0, 199, Marietta, Ga.
•NG Chris Mayes, Jr., 6-4, 310, Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College
•QB Brice Ramsey, Fr., 6-3, 195, Kingsland, Ga. (ESPN 150)
•LB Ryne Rankin, Fr., 6-1, 230, Orlando, Fla. (ESPN 300)
•WR Jonathon Rumph, Jr., 6-5, 215, Holmes Community College
•WR Tramel Terry, Fr., 5-11, 193, Goose Creek, S.C. (ESPN 150)
•CB Reggie Wilkerson, Fr., 5-11, 165, Citra, Fla. (ESPN 300)-

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Arkansas Razorbacks

Key losses: QB Tyler Wilson; RB Knile Davis; WR Cobi Hamilton

Even before March, even before Bobby Petrino was fired, 2012 was viewed as a now-or-never season for the Hogs. "Never" might be too strong of a term, but you get the point. The team, coming off a season in which it only lost to the two schools playing for the national title (Alabama, LSU), was built for that one season. And then came the slow deterioration.

The veteran Wilson did his best to lead, on and off the field, but it was to no avail in a 4-8 season that included a number of embarrassing moments. (Losing to Louisiana-Monroe and Rutgers at home? Ouch.) Wilson's TD-to-INT ratio dropped from 24-to-6 to 21-to-13 as he tried to will completions -- and his team to win.

Since most everyone stopped paying attention to the team -- aside from things stopgap coach John L. Smith was saying and doing -- many likely missed the quietly productive season WR Cobi Hamilton (90 catches, 1,335 yards) put together. Davis was a shell of himself coming back from a broken ankle, but he is a talented player nonetheless.

The positive for Arkansas is that new coach Bret Bielema will have a clean slate on which to redesign both sides of the ball. The Razorbacks could go backward before they go forward, because of the relative competition in the division and the losses of so many veterans, but chances are that he'll have them back in the not-too-distant future.

We'll say this, though: Wilson and his teammates deserved better.
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Re: Some SEC Football notes...

Postby BMF » Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:06 pm

Tennessee Volunteers

Key losses: QB Tyler Bray; WRs Justin Hunter, Cordarrelle Patterson

After the Volunteers lost to Florida in mid-September, a friend reminded me that the team could see Bray, Hunter and Patterson all leave early for the NFL. Hunter was coming off knee surgery and Patterson was in his first season after transferring from junior college, but they accounted for nearly 80 percent of UT's receiving yardage. Bray was sometimes raw, but his 34-12 TD-to-INT ratio was promising.

My buddy wondered what the team would look like without those three big offensive pieces, and he also wondered -- even then -- who would be the next Tennessee head coach. Now we know it will be Butch Jones, who was hired from Cincinnati after a couple of public swings-and-misses from athletic director Dave Hart. Jones certainly would have enjoyed having Bray and either Hunter or Patterson back, but he's no stranger to rebuilding efforts.

Jones followed Brian Kelly's consecutive BCS runs, to the Orange Bowl and Sugar Bowl, respectively, at Cincinnati. The Bearcats went 4-8 that next season as Jones worked to reconstruct the roster. The same could be on tap at Tennessee, where there's a lot of work to be done. Still, even if 2013 is a dud, it might not mean long-term failure for Jones. Those close to the program say things at least appear to be in better shape, in terms of the character of players and the team's overall depth, than when Kiffin "handed off" the program to Derek Dooley.

If QB and former national high school player of the year Justin Worley can play over his head, that would certainly help the transition. A bowl game for Jones and the Vols this fall would be a victory and provide overall momentum.

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Georgia Bulldogs

Key losses: DT John Jenkins; LB Jarvis Jones; LB Alec Ogletree

You'll notice that Jenkins, Jones and Ogletree are all defensive players. The Bulldogs remain essentially intact on the offensive side, but the defense -- which played terrific in 2011 but was inconsistent in 2012 -- will be impacted by a number of departures, from the front to the back.

Draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. currently has both Jones and Ogletree as top-10 players on hisBig Board. Jones, in fact, is his No. 1 prospect. Defensive tackles are tough to replace, and UGA will lose its big man, Jenkins, along with co-No. 1 Kwame Geathers (he declared early). The secondary was comprised of all seniors, including CBs Sanders Commings and Branden Smith and safeties Shawn Williams and Bacarri Rambo.

The Bulldogs remain high on most early top 25 lists, a nearly consensus top-10 choice, because of the return of quarterback Aaron Murray and young running backs Todd Gurleyand Keith Marshall. How coordinator Todd Grantham retools the defense will determine whether that ranking is too high for a team that was a few feet away from playing for the national championship.
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Re: Some SEC Football notes...

Postby Okeechobee Joe » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:55 pm

Hugh Freeze is doing a really good job over there at Ole Miss. A couple of years ago it looked like Dan Mullen and Mississippi State were taking off, and Ole Miss was back in the tank. Mullen was beating Houston Nutt, then the Ole Mis head coach, in recruiting bad. Now things are reversed. Things can sure change in a hurry.
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Re: Some SEC Football notes...

Postby BMF » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:50 am

Dan Mullen should have gotten out of there while the gettin' was good. Bad move on his part.

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Re: Some SEC Football notes...

Postby law98gator » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:35 am

Yup. Not sure that he had any opportunities. His name was floated with the scUm and Pedo State openings but that's about it. He certainly hasn't been a hot commodity.

I guess people just aren't aware what a great offensive mind he is.
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Re: Some SEC Football notes...

Postby TN G8tr » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:44 am

Always thought him going to Cowbell that this could definitely happen. If it keeps up he will not get any other offers.
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Re: Some SEC Football notes...

Postby BMF » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:25 am

The EE's that UGA brought in (13 total) is impressive. They have 2 big JUCO's: a 6'5 WR and a 310lb NT coming in.

Their O next year is going to be very good. They take a big hit defensively, however. I don't want to lose 3 in a row to those *******!

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Re: Some SEC Football notes...

Postby Gator Fever » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:06 am

BMF wrote:Dan Mullen should have gotten out of there while the gettin' was good. Bad move on his part.

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Yep - it appears he stayed too long.
" But understand we are not changing who we are philosophically on offense" - Coach Will Muschamp...
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Re: Some SEC Football notes...

Postby WobbleGator » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:44 am

SEC > the rest
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Re: Some SEC Football notes...

Postby gatorspook » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:57 am

Gator Fever wrote:
BMF wrote:Dan Mullen should have gotten out of there while the gettin' was good. Bad move on his part.

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Yep - it appears he stayed too long.


It's sad because you'd like to think there is some reward to loyalty.
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Re: Some SEC Football notes...

Postby BMF » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:04 pm

ALABAMA: Bradley Bozeman of Roanoke, Alabama plans to take a grayshirt and join the Tide football team according to TideSports.com, Alabama’s coach Nick Saban has asked injured offensive line commitment to enroll next year. That’s a January of 2014 enrollment rather than a 2013 enrollment. The 4-star prospect committed to Alabama in June, but he’s currently rehabbing from an ACL injury.

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Re: Some SEC Football notes...

Postby BMF » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:05 pm

GEORGIA: It seems Bulldog offensive coordinator Mike Bobo is about to finally get his due. Georgia was already in the process of sweetening its deal with its sixth-year offensive coordinator when Virginia Tech sent a plane to Athens last week offering Bobo its coordinator’s position, according to a report out of Newport News, Va., Bobo didn’t get on that plane. He was sitting with recruits at the Bulldogs’ basketball game against Mississippi State on Saturday and, by all accounts, plans to remain at UGA, his alma mater, for a while longer.

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Re: Some SEC Football notes...

Postby law98gator » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:08 pm

Who knew VT had an offense thus needed an offensive coordinator?
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Re: Some SEC Football notes...

Postby BMF » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:32 pm

No comments on Saban getting a 4-star to grayshirt?

I can't believe he's able to do this. Last year it bit him in the ass w/ the RB (from Atlanta) that got injured....ended up signing w/ Kentucky.

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Re: Some SEC Football notes...

Postby law98gator » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:36 pm

Not really. Not with an ACL injury for an OL (who would probably redshirt anyway).
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Re: Some SEC Football notes...

Postby UGator » Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:46 am

Looks like Bama and LSU lose players as well as GA, but their programs have been around for 7 years or more and have their pantries full of future stars.

We lose 4 starters but we're only going into our third year under Muschamp and don't have the pipe line as established as the other schools. Graduation will really affect us next year so we can't miss on any recruiting classes.

Do we have time to flip any players from other schools to help us fill out our class?
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