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"Icing" the kicker

Postby Zambo » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:50 pm

Is there a bigger ****** move in professional sports? Especially the ultra-last-second-right-before-the-snap variety? These guys are freaking pros....do coaches really think that giving these guys a practice kick somehow hurts them? Imagine giving a pro golfer a practice shot before having to hit the shot of the tournament? Just plain stupid.

Nothing warms my heart more than seeing that first kick go wide right and seeing the look on Carroll's stupid face. Of course the next kick, the one that counts, goes right down the middle. Because the kicker is a pro, not some high school kid.
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Re: "Icing" the kicker

Postby Zambo » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:53 pm

Also, expect a rule change disallowing "practice" kicks on the field during timeouts like Justin Tucker of the Ravens did yesterday.
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Re: "Icing" the kicker

Postby CapitalGator02 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:54 pm

D-Bag move and it's great when it backfires. Couldn't have happened to a better coach on a bigger stage. The best part is when Carroll tried to act like no one called the TO, but the replay clearly showed him whispering sweet nothings into the zebra's ear.
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Re: "Icing" the kicker

Postby WobbleGator » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:17 pm

Waste of time. Just let the guy kick. 60 extra seconds will not change anything.
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Re: "Icing" the kicker

Postby Leroy Jenkins » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:22 pm

CapitalGator02 wrote:D-Bag move and it's great when it backfires. Couldn't have happened to a better coach on a bigger stage. The best part is when Carroll tried to act like no one called the TO, but the replay clearly showed him whispering sweet nothings into the zebra's ear.


He wasn't upset about pretending not to call a timeout. He knew he did. Pete was just mad because he didn't think it was right for the Atlanta kicker to have a free practice kick. But as the NFL currently is, it's not a penalty and is
allowed.
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Re: "Icing" the kicker

Postby CapitalGator02 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:24 pm

Leroy Jenkins wrote:
CapitalGator02 wrote:D-Bag move and it's great when it backfires. Couldn't have happened to a better coach on a bigger stage. The best part is when Carroll tried to act like no one called the TO, but the replay clearly showed him whispering sweet nothings into the zebra's ear.


He wasn't upset about pretending not to call a timeout. He knew he did. Pete was just mad because he didn't think it was right for the Atlanta kicker to have a free practice kick. But as the NFL currently is, it's not a penalty and is
allowed.


Got it. Petey can still suck it
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Re: "Icing" the kicker

Postby Leroy Jenkins » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:26 pm

CapitalGator02 wrote:
Leroy Jenkins wrote:
CapitalGator02 wrote:D-Bag move and it's great when it backfires. Couldn't have happened to a better coach on a bigger stage. The best part is when Carroll tried to act like no one called the TO, but the replay clearly showed him whispering sweet nothings into the zebra's ear.


He wasn't upset about pretending not to call a timeout. He knew he did. Pete was just mad because he didn't think it was right for the Atlanta kicker to have a free practice kick. But as the NFL currently is, it's not a penalty and is
allowed.


Got it. Petey can still suck it


Yup. Never liked him. Seems like a fun guy and he has a solid team, but he really left USC in a bad place. Sh*t move by that guy.
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Re: "Icing" the kicker

Postby BostonGator84 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:27 pm

Just out of curiosity, is simply saying time out sufficient for a time out to be called, or does the hand signal have to be made? I saw a .gif of Pete whispering into the ref's ear, but i never saw the actual hand signal.

I know in basketball you have to make the signal, not sure if football's different.
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Re: "Icing" the kicker

Postby CapitalGator02 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:28 pm

Leroy Jenkins wrote:
CapitalGator02 wrote:
Leroy Jenkins wrote:
CapitalGator02 wrote:D-Bag move and it's great when it backfires. Couldn't have happened to a better coach on a bigger stage. The best part is when Carroll tried to act like no one called the TO, but the replay clearly showed him whispering sweet nothings into the zebra's ear.


He wasn't upset about pretending not to call a timeout. He knew he did. Pete was just mad because he didn't think it was right for the Atlanta kicker to have a free practice kick. But as the NFL currently is, it's not a penalty and is
allowed.


Got it. Petey can still suck it


Yup. Never liked him. Seems like a fun guy and he has a solid team, but he really left USC in a bad place. Sh*t move by that guy.


Agreed, then they try and clean the program up with Kiffen!

Must be wearing their wet suits too tight in So Cal...
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Re: "Icing" the kicker

Postby oxrageous » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:29 pm

The practice kick should be allowed. If you don't want the guy to kick it, don't wait until the last second to call the time out. That time out right before the snap is freaking bush league nonsense.

I'm glad Carroll got burned by it. He's a turd.
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Re: "Icing" the kicker

Postby Leroy Jenkins » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:34 pm

CapitalGator02 wrote:
Leroy Jenkins wrote:
CapitalGator02 wrote:
Leroy Jenkins wrote:
CapitalGator02 wrote:D-Bag move and it's great when it backfires. Couldn't have happened to a better coach on a bigger stage. The best part is when Carroll tried to act like no one called the TO, but the replay clearly showed him whispering sweet nothings into the zebra's ear.


He wasn't upset about pretending not to call a timeout. He knew he did. Pete was just mad because he didn't think it was right for the Atlanta kicker to have a free practice kick. But as the NFL currently is, it's not a penalty and is
allowed.


Got it. Petey can still suck it


Yup. Never liked him. Seems like a fun guy and he has a solid team, but he really left USC in a bad place. Sh*t move by that guy.


Agreed, then they try and clean the program up with Kiffen!

Must be wearing their wet suits too tight in So Cal...


Kiffen can recruit, especially at a program like USC, but he can't coach a lick. I hope he stays there. They'll suck as long as he is.
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Re: "Icing" the kicker

Postby gatordad » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:54 pm

Gotta say, I lived in Seattle for 20 years and wanted them to win but can't stand Pete. On the other hand I went to Georgia Tech and didn't mind Atlanta winning either.
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Re: "Icing" the kicker

Postby Red D » Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:43 pm

If you really want to get in a kicker's head, don't call the timeout. No one would expect it.
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Re: "Icing" the kicker

Postby Red D » Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:45 pm

oxrageous wrote:The practice kick should be allowed. If you don't want the guy to kick it, don't wait until the last second to call the time out. That time out right before the snap is freaking bush league nonsense.

I'm glad Carroll got burned by it. He's a turd.


OP is referring to the practice kick in Denver/Ravens game. The first OT expired and during play stoppage, a coach for the Ravens came running onto the field with a ball and while everyone was standing around, the coach spotted it and the kicker took a whack at it.
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Re: "Icing" the kicker

Postby FunnGun » Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:45 pm

Sounds like someone missed the under by a couple of points yesterday. :lol:
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Re: "Icing" the kicker

Postby Coach9 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:47 pm

The only way to get in the kicker's head is to "over the top" act like your going to call a timeout and then don't. Never give the guy a practice stroke.
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Re: "Icing" the kicker

Postby oxrageous » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:01 pm

Red D wrote:
oxrageous wrote:The practice kick should be allowed. If you don't want the guy to kick it, don't wait until the last second to call the time out. That time out right before the snap is freaking bush league nonsense.

I'm glad Carroll got burned by it. He's a turd.


OP is referring to the practice kick in Denver/Ravens game. The first OT expired and during play stoppage, a coach for the Ravens came running onto the field with a ball and while everyone was standing around, the coach spotted it and the kicker took a whack at it.

I don't see anything wrong with that either. Who cares?
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Re: "Icing" the kicker

Postby cuuf » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:11 pm

Meh, if its your team you want to do everything possible to win the game. I personally don't believe that it's effective especially if you allow the kicker to get a kick off. But if the coach thinks it can help win then why not.
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Re: "Icing" the kicker

Postby WhoGator » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:24 pm

The real idiots are the ones that save their last timeout to ice the kicker and they could have called it with 25 seconds left and at least given their team a remote chance of getting across midfield and kicking their own field goal once the opponent makes theirs.

I've never understood why coaches on defense allow offenses to wind the clock down to 3 seconds to kick a game-winner when they still have time outs left... Stupid.

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Re: "Icing" the kicker

Postby Zambo » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:47 pm

Yeah, you think when Carroll go the ball back at midfield with 13 seconds left he coulda used that timeout?
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