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Slayings not forgotten, Ray Lewis not forgiven

Postby oxrageous » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:40 pm

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf ... =obnetwork
Lewis never directly linked his two friends to the killings, and they were acquitted. Lewis had testified that Oakley, Sweeting and another man had gone to a sporting goods store the previous day to buy knives. Baker's blood later was found in Lewis' limo. Having fled the crime scene, Lewis told the limo's passengers to "keep their mouths shut." The white suit Lewis was wearing that night — on Super Bowl Sunday — never was found.

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Re: Slayings not forgotten, Ray Lewis not forgiven

Postby MatthewM. » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:45 pm

Lewis is a murderer and we've known it since then but it seems to get ignored for whatever reason.
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Re: Slayings not forgotten, Ray Lewis not forgiven

Postby CapitalGator02 » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:52 pm

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Re: Slayings not forgotten, Ray Lewis not forgiven

Postby WobbleGator » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:52 pm

MatthewM. wrote:Lewis is a murderer and we've known it since then but it seems to get ignored for whatever reason.

He wins, so all is forgiven. :?
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Re: Slayings not forgotten, Ray Lewis not forgiven

Postby gatordad3 » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:56 pm

Everytime I see Ray Lewis on TV all I can think of is the night of the murders. "If" he didn't commit those murders, and he sure as hell knows who did, I know for a fact what he was involved in that night will eat him up inside till the day he rots in hell. People out there commit murders and vehicular hit and runs, and the people who haven't been caught, are out there just like Ray Lewis still living normal lives as if they didn't do anything wrong.
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Re: Slayings not forgotten, Ray Lewis not forgiven

Postby dangerous dave » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:33 pm

O.J.s glove and rays white suit still missing. two thugs
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Re: Slayings not forgotten, Ray Lewis not forgiven

Postby Dugaboy » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:36 pm

Most UM football players had a lot to say back in those days. Michael Erwin was a prime example; but Michael was harmless if not - comical.

Ray Lewis mouthed off all the time and would go out of his way to seek a microphone or a camera. He did that for years at Baltimore. If you can recall Raven games in the past, you will watch Lewis look at the camera then put on a show...Boob. He would make sure number 52 was in the camera range.

Murder, indeed. We lived in Atlanta back then and the AJC covered those murders closely to a point and the stopped when it got to Ray Lewis. Word off the story was, that he indeed was in on the murders and was fully aware of the two guys in his limo that night had blood on their hands.
That was the era of drugs, sex, and videotapes...who knows except Ray Lewis.

Yep. He has a day of reckoning coming...
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Re: Slayings not forgotten, Ray Lewis not forgiven

Postby law98gator » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:44 pm

Plenty of people remember.
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Re: Slayings not forgotten, Ray Lewis not forgiven

Postby Gulfstream » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:07 pm

While I believe that the writers got it right in the recent MLB HOF votes regarding Clemens, Sosa & Bonds. I cannot belive the NFL Voters will do the same in this case.

This then begs the question, Should Lewis be allowed into the NFL HOF with blood on his hands ?
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Re: Slayings not forgotten, Ray Lewis not forgiven

Postby Maillot Jaune » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:17 pm

IMO, no. But he will get in. The commish loves him.
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Re: Slayings not forgotten, Ray Lewis not forgiven

Postby #1GATOR FAN » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:19 pm

Another thing that pisses me off is how he acts like he is this big hearted guy in his interviews. Acts like he is the only in the world that had face adversity in their life....
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Re: Slayings not forgotten, Ray Lewis not forgiven

Postby divits888 » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:25 pm

This great humanitarian and role model image that Lewis and the NFL like to project makes me want to vomit. Besides his participation in the murder of two people he is a also a horrible father with 6 illegitimate kids from 4 different women. He’s a pig.
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Re: Slayings not forgotten, Ray Lewis not forgiven

Postby Swamp82 » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:42 pm

dangerous dave wrote:O.J.s glove and rays white suit still missing. two thugs


No they have OJ's gloves (found one of them in his driveway and the other behind Cato's pool house) but his attorney made him wear vinyl gloves when trying on the bloody shrunken gloves...of course they wouldn't fit, so you must aquit. Maybe Ray will screw up again and go to prison for "Karma"
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Re: Slayings not forgotten, Ray Lewis not forgiven

Postby rogdochar » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:58 pm

From Lewis' sworn testimony (secured by plea bargain) and other
court admitted facts:

1) Transportation was provided by Lewis' limo=(outstanding pure-white)

2) His entourage-buddies bought knives from a sporting goods store
the day before the Superbowl. All those festivities ongoing in an SB
city, and they want to buy knives at a Sporting Goods Store ??
Knives at such a repository are hunting knives ergo of deadly design.

3) Victims' blood found in Lewis' limo.

4) Lewis, after getting his buds to pile in his Limo (=blood transfer)
fled the scene of the crime.

5) ME "victims savagely beaten & stabbed many times (2x direct in heart)

6) Lewis plead guilty to "obstruction of justice". Got 1 year probation
from "Lady Justice" and $250,000 from NFL-justice.

Following years civil suits against Lewis were settled :
1) A down-bargained $10 mil-$ suit on behalf of victim's infant
daughter, yet born when father was murdered.

2) A second victim's suit settled.

Think of this as you watch the NFL cameras focus-joyously on Mr. Ray
Lewis' Dance that draws from "dance of savage warriors". And extend
that to "savagely beaten and stabbed"---by his tribe-members ?? :madevil:
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Re: Slayings not forgotten, Ray Lewis not forgiven

Postby TommyGator » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:35 pm

The only "redeeming" factor: At least he stabbed some other thugs....
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Re: Slayings not forgotten, Ray Lewis not forgiven

Postby alcoholica » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:52 pm

Gulfstream wrote:While I believe that the writers got it right in the recent MLB HOF votes regarding Clemens, Sosa & Bonds. I cannot belive the NFL Voters will do the same in this case.

This then begs the question, Should Lewis be alowed into the NFL HOF with blood on his hands ?


I remember when Lawrence Taylor was elected to the HOF. Sam Kouvaris was the only person to not vote for LT. Phil Simms basically called him an idiot and who knows what else. Sam was a regular on Lex and Terry at the time and he basically said that if Pete Rose's gambling is bad enough to keep him out of the baseball HOF then LT didn't deserve to be in the football HOF. I forget what LT was in trouble for at the time, all his crap runs together it seems, but i think it was for drugs and the underaged stuff happened later. For those who don't remember, player's character was a hot topic at the time for HOF inductions.

I think Sam got it right, and I don't think Ray Lewis deserves to be the HOF based on what everyone else has mentioned.
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Re: Slayings not forgotten, Ray Lewis not forgiven

Postby #1GATOR FAN » Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:38 pm

He will get in the HOF book it.

People on ESPN or where ever act like that never happened and gush over him every chance they get. Whether we agree/disagree about what happen he was never truley found guilty there for I doubt any voter would put that against him.

Sad but true IMO
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Re: Slayings not forgotten, Ray Lewis not forgiven

Postby CapitalGator02 » Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:34 pm

#1GATOR FAN wrote:He will get in the HOF book it.

People on ESPN or where ever act like that never happened and gush over him every chance they get. Whether we agree/disagree about what happen he was never truley found guilty there for I doubt any voter would put that against him.

Sad but true IMO


I guess Bonds and McGuire should've knocked a few people off instead of shrinking their balls and enlarging their heads. They would have been HOF locks for sure...
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Re: Slayings not forgotten, Ray Lewis not forgiven

Postby GatorsGetGoodAgain » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:25 pm

Yes, MLB is much stricter than NFL which is stupid. I really just don't even care about the steroid use anymore, its just silly. I cant even believe the depth that people have gone to try and bust MLB guys and Lance. Yet NFLers just have to cry on an interview or write some cheesy apology letter and its all good; I mean after all, they had a hard life (or at least that's what they will spin). Lewis will get in the HOF no prob, unless he is busted for something prior to his induction. But Barry Bonds may never get in even though he was a HOFer pre-alleged (he used) steroid use. And his numbers were against pitchers who were juiced too, so its all relative.
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Re: Slayings not forgotten, Ray Lewis not forgiven

Postby #1GATOR FAN » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:53 pm

CapitalGator02 wrote:
#1GATOR FAN wrote:He will get in the HOF book it.

People on ESPN or where ever act like that never happened and gush over him every chance they get. Whether we agree/disagree about what happen he was never truley found guilty there for I doubt any voter would put that against him.

Sad but true IMO


I guess Bonds and McGuire should've knocked a few people off instead of shrinking their balls and enlarging their heads. They would have been HOF locks for sure...


Ya I guess lol, as steroids effect how they got there stats in the sport. Even if they had the good stats before hand...

Lewis's actions were off field and didn't effect how he played his sport.

But I agree if it were me I would vote none of them in.
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