Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], MSNbot Media and 28 guests

How many Titles does Bama really have??

A sports-bar atmosphere where Gators, Noles, Vols, Dawgs and other fans can meet and discuss various topics in the sports world. We reserve the right to reject any registration.

Moderators: Moderator, Site Administrators

"Got 15?"

Postby jand3k » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:20 pm

I'm so tired of Alabama. I'm especially tired of their mantra, "Got ________?" Insert number here (or the word herpes). They'll claim anything remotely close to a championship.

Well, I like how the latest article on GSMB puts it.
http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20130107/WIRE/130109718?tc=cr

"The process is ongoing," said Saban, still tightlipped as ever and showing little emotion after the fourth national title of his coaching career. "We're going to enjoy it for 24 hours or so."

The Crimson Tide (13-1) wrapped up its ninth Associated Press national title, breaking a tie with Notre Dame for the most by any school and gaining a measure of redemption for a bitter loss to the Irish almost four decades ago: the epic 1973 Sugar Bowl in which Ara Parseghian's team edged Bear Bryant's powerhouse 24-23.

Bryant won five AP titles during his brilliant career. The way things are going, Saban might just chase him down.
Image
User avatar
jand3k
Head Ball Coach
 
Posts: 4280
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:02 pm

Re: "Got 15?"

Postby SavannahGator » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:27 pm

Six of their titles come from the "pre-poll" era, which is before 1936, when the AP Poll first debuted. Some were by some recent computerized polls that went back and analyzed seasons of games and stats from the 1920s, etc. Some were polls from the 1910s and 1920s that no one ever heard of and don't exist anymore.

Hate the polls if you wish, but in my book, the ONLY "standardized" polls are those since 1936, which for many years was just the AP sportswriters poll, and then the UPI Coaches' Poll along with the AP. So the only national championships that "count" are those since 1936. Anything before 1936 is just a joke.

They have NINE National Titles. Period.
"A life is not important - except in the impact it has on other lives" . . . Jackie Robinson
User avatar
SavannahGator
Head Ball Coach
 
Posts: 2867
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:03 pm

Re: "Got 15?"

Postby jand3k » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:42 pm

I completely agree but also know that ALL previous and current championships (even BCS) are just beauty contests where the winner is VOTED in as champion. The BCS got us closer than ever w/#1 playing against #2 but the new playoff will end all doubt.

At any rate, I think UF should claim the 2 National Championships from 1984 and 1985. But UF should also claim the three SEC Championships from 1984, 1985, and 1990.

Just my .02
Image
User avatar
jand3k
Head Ball Coach
 
Posts: 4280
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:02 pm

How many Titles does Bama really have??

Postby Jbossgator9 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:11 pm

I know that some Bama fans have been posting on Facebook that they now have 15 National Titles. On ESPN before the NC game, on the scrolling line on the bottom of the screen they were saying that Bama has 9 and ND has 8 so I'm a little confused by this.
Jbossgator9
Heisman Gator
 
Posts: 1402
Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:24 am

Re: How many Titles does Bama really have??

Postby jand3k » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:23 pm

It's up to like 42 or something. And that's just since the BCS started.
Image
User avatar
jand3k
Head Ball Coach
 
Posts: 4280
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:02 pm

Re: How many Titles does Bama really have??

Postby jand3k » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:27 pm

For the most up to date data on their championships, check out:
http://forum.gatorsports.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=25099
Image
User avatar
jand3k
Head Ball Coach
 
Posts: 4280
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:02 pm

Re: How many Titles does Bama really have??

Postby WobbleGator » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:31 pm

27
User avatar
WobbleGator
Gatorsports Legend
 
Posts: 13800
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:57 pm

Re: How many Titles does Bama really have??

Postby Jabberdave » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:35 pm

I think the Pawl Finebaum Posse claims the 1936 title after Southern Homes and Gardens claimed they were the best team in the country.
My, you're pretty after the third bottle.
User avatar
Jabberdave
Bull Gator
 
Posts: 6900
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:01 pm

Re: How many Titles does Bama really have??

Postby rogdochar » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:40 pm

The Prez of Alabama said he's going by what he read in "The Onion".
User avatar
rogdochar
Gatorsports Legend
 
Posts: 12705
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:17 am

Re: How many Titles does Bama really have??

Postby #1GATOR FAN » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:49 pm

Well each year they win it counts as 5, while each year they lose counts as 2.

So they have 100 an something
User avatar
#1GATOR FAN
Heisman Gator
 
Posts: 1391
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:03 pm

Re: How many Titles does Bama really have??

Postby Okeechobee Joe » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:55 pm

I don't know. But I do know Alabama got screwed out of the national title in 1966 by Notre Dame. Notre Dame and Michigan State played to an infamous 10 to 10 tie in one of those so-called games of the century. Alabama went undefeated and Bear Bryant was denied his third consective national title.

Bryant never defeated ND in 4 tries. It was a long time coming but it was pay back time in Miami on Monday night.
User avatar
Okeechobee Joe
Heisman Gator
 
Posts: 2431
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:31 pm

Re: "Got 15?"

Postby GATOR_ACE2002 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:04 pm

jand3k wrote:I completely agree but also know that ALL previous and current championships (even BCS) are just beauty contests where the winner is VOTED in as champion. The BCS got us closer than ever w/#1 playing against #2 but the new playoff will end all doubt.

At any rate, I think UF should claim the 2 National Championships from 1984 and 1985. But UF should also claim the three SEC Championships from 1984, 1985, and 1990.

Just my .02


:lol: !! While I totally agree with your logic here, I wouldn't want us to start claiming titles like bama does. They are a good program but everyone knows, outside of alabama, how many they really have. I just want to know we earned AND that everyone recognizes the ones we have earned!
:chomp:
User avatar
GATOR_ACE2002
Baby Gator
 
Posts: 28
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:57 am

Re: How many Titles does Bama really have??

Postby ReelGatorDoc » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:06 pm

ask Lou Holtz
It's Great to be a Florida GATOR!
User avatar
ReelGatorDoc
Head Ball Coach
 
Posts: 3046
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:02 pm
Location: Southwest Florida

Re: How many Titles does Bama really have??

Postby the-color-blue » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:06 pm

i would go with eight but that has when they decided before bowl games which would make notre dame win this so doesn't count here is a link about the old ones posted by some body some where
http://spittingfire.wordpress.com/2008/ ... pionships/
the-color-blue
Freshman Gator
 
Posts: 177
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:42 pm

Re: How many Titles does Bama really have??

Postby jand3k » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:11 pm

Google will show the answer is 19 but only 9 are recognized by a legitimate source like the AP and or the BCS.

To give you an idea as to how rediculous that number is, just look at the following list that shows all of the top schools and their # of Championships in football:
School Championships
Princeton 28
Yale 27
Michigan 22
Notre Dame 22
Alabama 19
Oklahoma 17
USC 17
Ohio State 14
Harvard 12
Nebraska 11
Pittsburgh 11
Miami 9
Texas 9
LSU 8
Florida State 7
Minnesota 7
Penn State 7
Tennessee 7
Georgia Tech 6
Michigan State 6
Penn 6
Army 5
Auburn 5
California 5
Cornell 5
Florida 5
Georgia 5

However, the site then goes on to show that the schools actually only claim the following 'official' amount of titles; so this is probably more accurate:
Princeton 28
Yale 26
Alabama 15
Michigan 11
Notre Dame 11
USC 11
Pittsburgh 9
Harvard 7
Minnesota 7
Ohio State 7
Oklahoma 7
Penn 7
Michigan St 6
Tennessee 6
California 5
Cornell 5
Georgia 5
Illinois 5
Miami 5
Nebraska 5
Georgia Tech 4
Texas 4
Army 3
Florida 3

Of special note on the difference between the two: Notice how Georgia sticks to their "5" while FSU admits to only 2 (not shown). Tisk, tisk. Oh, and Florida accepts their punishment and doesn't count the 2 from '84 and '85.
Image
User avatar
jand3k
Head Ball Coach
 
Posts: 4280
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:02 pm

Re: "Got 15?"

Postby jand3k » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:25 pm

GATOR_ACE2002 wrote:
jand3k wrote:I completely agree but also know that ALL previous and current championships (even BCS) are just beauty contests where the winner is VOTED in as champion. The BCS got us closer than ever w/#1 playing against #2 but the new playoff will end all doubt.

At any rate, I think UF should claim the 2 National Championships from 1984 and 1985. But UF should also claim the three SEC Championships from 1984, 1985, and 1990.

Just my .02


:lol: !! While I totally agree with your logic here, I wouldn't want us to start claiming titles like bama does. They are a good program but everyone knows, outside of alabama, how many they really have. I just want to know we earned AND that everyone recognizes the ones we have earned!
:chomp:


Not to dissagree w/you but Florida did rightfully earn the two in '84 & '85. However, their '84 title was vacated and the were deemed "Not Elligible" for their '85 title.

The following sources voted UF as Champions in '84:
DeVold System, Dunkel System, Matthews Grid Ratings, NY Times, Rothman (FACT), Sporting News, Sagarin Ratings

In '85 only Sagarin Ratings did (sources shy'd away from them because they were on probation).

It is a lot like Spurrier always claiming his 1990 SEC title and I agree w/him on that.
Last edited by jand3k on Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image
User avatar
jand3k
Head Ball Coach
 
Posts: 4280
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:02 pm

Re: "Got 15?"

Postby willgetin » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:25 pm

I don't, but this link does...

http://youtu.be/bavou_SEj1E
Alv: We have no excuses for this humiliating loss. We have only ourselves to blame. Tennessee most definitely deserved to lose.
Alv: You do realize your signature bums me out more than any other Jort rabble on the GSMB...Any chance you would...remove it?
willgetin
Heisman Gator
 
Posts: 1945
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:31 pm

Re: How many Titles does Bama really have??

Postby the-color-blue » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:28 pm

hopefully this playoffs makes all these voted ones irrelivant in 20 years or something
the-color-blue
Freshman Gator
 
Posts: 177
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:42 pm

Re: How many Titles does Bama really have??

Postby The RH Factor » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:12 pm

I believe Alabama may have won a couple of national championships during the Civil War that may not have been counted.
The RH Factor
Head Ball Coach
 
Posts: 4177
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:02 pm

Re: How many Titles does Bama really have??

Postby Panhandle Gator » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:33 pm

Panhandle Gator
Freshman Gator
 
Posts: 189
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:58 pm

Next

Return to Gatorsports Forum

cron