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Should Jags/Tebow fans hope for Jason Licht?

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Should Jags/Tebow fans hope for Jason Licht?

Postby wuerffelball7 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:42 pm

According to article (link) below, the Jags will fire the GM. Licht has ties with Andy Reid...who -if I am not mistaken - used offensive schemes that worked well for M. Vick. If Licht is hired, it is possible that the Jags could let Mularkey go and hire Reid as HC, and then pick up Tebow to run similar schemes to Tim's skill set.
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Re: Should Jags/Tebow fans hope for Jason Licht?

Postby G8RByte » Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:55 pm

Would like that combo in Jax.
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Re: Should Jags/Tebow fans hope for Jason Licht?

Postby vulcan_alex » Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:43 pm

I am more interested in Jax getting better up front and on special teams. Lose today with two pic six, and two returns for TD against the Titans who are not that great of a team.
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Re: Should Jags/Tebow fans hope for Jason Licht?

Postby Scott512 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:08 pm

The Jags need changes top to bottom in that organization. Serious changes. They need leadership too. They also need a star and a gamer and they can ge tthat in Tim Tebow giving up little in the process. Tebow's contract is not an issue and he will do anything for the Jags during games. I hope they get Tim and he starts but if he starts as a wildcat specialist I am okay with that if he can't win the starting job. Whatever happens I don't see the Jags just giving up on Blaine Gabbert and cutting ties with him with the guaranteed money he has coming. And you know some Jaguars mamagement will worry that the spector of Tebow will hurt Gabbert the way it did Mark Sanchez with the jets this season. I say too bad. These are grown men making millions of dollars so they shoould be able to handle the pressure of competition without crumbling the way Sanchez did.
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Re: Should Jags/Tebow fans hope for Jason Licht?

Postby TommyGator » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:32 pm

Let's see...Timmy because he's a hometown hero and lifelong winner or Blaine Gabbert because he has a bigger contract.....

I'll take Timmy for all the marbles, Pat...
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Re: Should Jags/Tebow fans hope for Jason Licht?

Postby Scott512 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:38 pm

TommyGator wrote:Let's see...Timmy because he's a hometown hero and lifelong winner or Blaine Gabbert because he has a bigger contract.....

I'll take Timmy for all the marbles, Pat...

Agreed. But it's just not as simple as that where the Jaguars braintrust is concerned. Whomever their next briantrust will be that is. ;) I have no doubt Tebow would help the Jags on and off the field and he would help the beatern up and beleagured Maurice Jones - Drew too. It's pathetic the Jets never gave Tim the chance to help them this season. What a waste.
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Re: Should Jags/Tebow fans hope for Jason Licht?

Postby tillsb » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:40 pm

The Jaguars need so much
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Re: Should Jags/Tebow fans hope for Jason Licht?

Postby G8RByte » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:57 pm

They really do tillsb, and this roster will look a lot different next year. Several guys who have been decent contributors are at the end of their contract or retiring.

Meester - retiring
Mathis - contract is up
Knighton - contract is up
Derek Cox - contract is up
Greg Jones - contract is up
MJD - one more year on his

Those few are just off the top of my head.

They have to fix the QB position. Good nucleus of young receivers; Shorts, Blackmon, and Shipley I think are all starters next year. They need a pass-catching TE. Marcedes can block, but is a below average receiver (and that's being kind). Interior OLine has to be addressed, linebacker, and corner (depending on Cox and Mathis). They need to cut Aaron Ross unless he has guaranteed money...the pass rush at NYG is obviously the reason he looked good while playing there.

They also need a new strength and conditioning coach. The last two years they have had 31 and 22 on IR respectively; that is unheard of. Some of it is luck, but you can't sustain any kind of success with that many players inactive.
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Re: Should Jags/Tebow fans hope for Jason Licht?

Postby Swamp82 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:10 pm

TommyGator wrote:Let's see...Timmy because he's a hometown hero and lifelong winner or Blaine Gabbert because he has a bigger contract.....

I'll take Timmy for all the marbles, Pat...


Leave his marbles out of it. :eek:
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Re: Should Jags/Tebow fans hope for Jason Licht?

Postby alcoholica » Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:23 pm

not sure if Mularkey is willing/able to build an offense around Tebow. I'll be happy with whatever the new GM (hoping Smith is gone) decides.

Why not trade Gabbert for Tebow plus some draft picks? Trade the #1 while you're at it and MJD. Make sure you get 5th rd or better picks and have at it.
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Re: Should Jags/Tebow fans hope for Jason Licht?

Postby G8RByte » Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:42 pm

alcoholica wrote:not sure if Mularkey is willing/able to build an offense around Tebow. I'll be happy with whatever the new GM (hoping Smith is gone) decides.

Why not trade Gabbert for Tebow plus some draft picks? Trade the #1 while you're at it and MJD. Make sure you get 5th rd or better picks and have at it.


You really have to believe in Tebow as a pro signal caller to do that. I know Smith did not. I agree in maximizing picks.

MJD is tricky. I don't know that you would get better than a 5th round pick for a 30 yr old back coming off injury. I think he still has some left in the tank, but at what expense? Unless you have Adrian Peterson, I'd rather see money put in the OLine (free agency or through the draft). Eugene Monroe is the only OLineman the Jags have that would start for other teams.
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Re: Should Jags/Tebow fans hope for Jason Licht?

Postby usmcmfs » Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:10 am

What Tim needs is a GM/Head Coach that values leadership. One of my favorites back in the day was Joe Kapp. He threw ducks but won football games. Billy Kilmer the same. Tim is infinitely more athletic than both and just as much the leader. He just needs to land in the right situation and be given the rock. He'll take it from there.
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Re: Should Jags/Tebow fans hope for Jason Licht?

Postby Kevgatr » Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:17 am

I didn't think the read option could work in the pro's but that is all Washington does with RG3, especially tonight against Dallas. It seems if Tebow was given the weapons and dedication from coaches he has been given he might be able to flourish. As much doubters as Tim has it seems everybody does nothing but praise RG3.
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Re: Should Jags/Tebow fans hope for Jason Licht?

Postby GatorTAG » Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:37 am

I'd take anybody over Gene Smith. I could put together a better draft than he could any day of the week.

As for bringing Tebow in, RGIII has done the same thing with Washington as Tebow did with Denver last year. He's run the read option and made a 6th round rookie RB one of the top rushers in the league and Washington the best rushing team in the league. Tebow re-invigorated a washed up Magahee and made Denver the top rushing team in the NFL last year. Funny thing is everyone says it won't work when Tebow runs it and they say RGIII is an MVP when he runs it. Go figure. :rolleyes:

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Re: Should Jags/Tebow fans hope for Jason Licht?

Postby G8RByte » Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:10 am

GatorTAG wrote:I'd take anybody over Gene Smith. I could put together a better draft than he could any day of the week.

As for bringing Tebow in, RGIII has done the same thing with Washington as Tebow did with Denver last year. He's run the read option and made a 6th round rookie RB one of the top rushers in the league and Washington the best rushing team in the league. Tebow re-invigorated a washed up Magahee and made Denver the top rushing team in the NFL last year. Funny thing is everyone says it won't work when Tebow runs it and they say RGIII is an MVP when he runs it. Go figure. :rolleyes:

Tebow and MJD would be unbelievable.


I don't totally disagree, but Griffin (I hate these ARod type nicknames), is very smooth at going threw his progressions, and gets the ball out on time which are areas Tebow struggled with last year. The passing stats for Tebow and Griffin in their rookie seasons are not comparable. The only argument I can buy is that Fox & co. would not let Tebow throw until they were behind and had to, and when he did he was pretty successful in the 4th quarters of games.
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Postby oxrageous » Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:34 am

alcoholica wrote:Not sure if Mularkey is willing/able to build an offense around Tebow.

No one will care what Mularkey thinks while he's sitting at home on his couch. I expect them to fire his ass.
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Postby GatorTAG » Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:47 am

It's being reported that Shad Khan met with Gene Smith yesterday and has another meeting with him today. All expectations are that he will be fired today.

The speculation is that it will be the new GM's decision on whether to keep Mularkey.
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Re: Should Jags/Tebow fans hope for Jason Licht?

Postby GatorTAG » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:21 am

G8RByte wrote:
GatorTAG wrote:I'd take anybody over Gene Smith. I could put together a better draft than he could any day of the week.

As for bringing Tebow in, RGIII has done the same thing with Washington as Tebow did with Denver last year. He's run the read option and made a 6th round rookie RB one of the top rushers in the league and Washington the best rushing team in the league. Tebow re-invigorated a washed up Magahee and made Denver the top rushing team in the NFL last year. Funny thing is everyone says it won't work when Tebow runs it and they say RGIII is an MVP when he runs it. Go figure. :rolleyes:

Tebow and MJD would be unbelievable.


I don't totally disagree, but Griffin (I hate these ARod type nicknames), is very smooth at going threw his progressions, and gets the ball out on time which are areas Tebow struggled with last year. The passing stats for Tebow and Griffin in their rookie seasons are not comparable. The only argument I can buy is that Fox & co. would not let Tebow throw until they were behind and had to, and when he did he was pretty successful in the 4th quarters of games.

All I know is that before the a few guys in NFL made a big deal about Tim's throwing motion he was the SEC's all-time leader in career passing efficiency (170.8), completion percentage (67.1%) and passing touchdown to interception ratio (5.5 to 1). That was/is ALL TIME SEC records. Those records were against the best defenses that college football had to offer. Keep in mind the SEC has had some pretty good QB's during its existence. Stafford, Cutler and a couple of Manning's at the current time. As far as NCAA Division-I passing records, Tebow is ranked second in career passing efficiency, third in career yards per attempt (9.33). Tebow passed for 10 more career TD's with 2 less Int's than RGIII against much tougher defenses in college. I'm not sure if RGIII holds any Big12 or NCAA passing records or not, but Tim's records can't be brushed away as some sort of aberration that didn't happen.

People can discount what Tim did as a passer in college all they want but I am tired of hearing this crap that Tebow can't throw, can't read defenses, can't go through progressions, etc... If Tim were sitting in Washington playing for a team that adored him and fawned over his skills the way they have done with RGIII. If Tim's Head Coach and OC called plays that amplified Tim's skills instead of worked against them. He would be putting up the same numbers.
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Re: Should Jags/Tebow fans hope for Jason Licht?

Postby delg8tor » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:40 am

GatorTAG wrote:
G8RByte wrote:
GatorTAG wrote:I'd take anybody over Gene Smith. I could put together a better draft than he could any day of the week.

As for bringing Tebow in, RGIII has done the same thing with Washington as Tebow did with Denver last year. He's run the read option and made a 6th round rookie RB one of the top rushers in the league and Washington the best rushing team in the league. Tebow re-invigorated a washed up Magahee and made Denver the top rushing team in the NFL last year. Funny thing is everyone says it won't work when Tebow runs it and they say RGIII is an MVP when he runs it. Go figure. :rolleyes:

Tebow and MJD would be unbelievable.


I don't totally disagree, but Griffin (I hate these ARod type nicknames), is very smooth at going threw his progressions, and gets the ball out on time which are areas Tebow struggled with last year. The passing stats for Tebow and Griffin in their rookie seasons are not comparable. The only argument I can buy is that Fox & co. would not let Tebow throw until they were behind and had to, and when he did he was pretty successful in the 4th quarters of games.

All I know is that before the a few guys in NFL made a big deal about Tim's throwing motion he was the SEC's all-time leader in career passing efficiency (170.8), completion percentage (67.1%) and passing touchdown to interception ratio (5.5 to 1). That was/is ALL TIME SEC records. Those records were against the best defenses that college football had to offer. Keep in mind the SEC has had some pretty good QB's during its existence. Stafford, Cutler and a couple of Manning's at the current time. As far as NCAA Division-I passing records, Tebow is ranked second in career passing efficiency, third in career yards per attempt (9.33). Tebow passed for 10 more career TD's with 2 less Int's than RGIII against much tougher defenses in college. I'm not sure if RGIII holds any Big12 or NCAA passing records or not, but Tim's records can't be brushed away as some sort of aberration that didn't happen.

People can discount what Tim did as a passer in college all they want but I am tired of hearing this crap that Tebow can't throw, can't read defenses, can't go through progressions, etc... If Tim were sitting in Washington playing for a team that adored him and fawned over his skills the way they have done with RGIII. If Tim's Head Coach and OC called plays that amplified Tim's skills instead of worked against them. He would be putting up the same numbers.

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Re: Should Jags/Tebow fans hope for Jason Licht?

Postby The_AlphaGator1906 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:50 am

delg8tor wrote:
GatorTAG wrote:
G8RByte wrote:
GatorTAG wrote:I'd take anybody over Gene Smith. I could put together a better draft than he could any day of the week.

As for bringing Tebow in, RGIII has done the same thing with Washington as Tebow did with Denver last year. He's run the read option and made a 6th round rookie RB one of the top rushers in the league and Washington the best rushing team in the league. Tebow re-invigorated a washed up Magahee and made Denver the top rushing team in the NFL last year. Funny thing is everyone says it won't work when Tebow runs it and they say RGIII is an MVP when he runs it. Go figure. :rolleyes:

Tebow and MJD would be unbelievable.


I don't totally disagree, but Griffin (I hate these ARod type nicknames), is very smooth at going threw his progressions, and gets the ball out on time which are areas Tebow struggled with last year. The passing stats for Tebow and Griffin in their rookie seasons are not comparable. The only argument I can buy is that Fox & co. would not let Tebow throw until they were behind and had to, and when he did he was pretty successful in the 4th quarters of games.

All I know is that before the a few guys in NFL made a big deal about Tim's throwing motion he was the SEC's all-time leader in career passing efficiency (170.8), completion percentage (67.1%) and passing touchdown to interception ratio (5.5 to 1). That was/is ALL TIME SEC records. Those records were against the best defenses that college football had to offer. Keep in mind the SEC has had some pretty good QB's during its existence. Stafford, Cutler and a couple of Manning's at the current time. As far as NCAA Division-I passing records, Tebow is ranked second in career passing efficiency, third in career yards per attempt (9.33). Tebow passed for 10 more career TD's with 2 less Int's than RGIII against much tougher defenses in college. I'm not sure if RGIII holds any Big12 or NCAA passing records or not, but Tim's records can't be brushed away as some sort of aberration that didn't happen.

People can discount what Tim did as a passer in college all they want but I am tired of hearing this crap that Tebow can't throw, can't read defenses, can't go through progressions, etc... If Tim were sitting in Washington playing for a team that adored him and fawned over his skills the way they have done with RGIII. If Tim's Head Coach and OC called plays that amplified Tim's skills instead of worked against them. He would be putting up the same numbers.

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but...but...but....his throwing motion won't let him put up those numbers in the NFL. I know he played against NFL defensive lineman in college but...but...but...excuse...after..excuse..after.
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